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Samahiel Sotken
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.20 15:23:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Mr Goblin, you have been exposed as a Goon spy!
I've often heard it said, "If Gevlon Goblin didn't exist, we would have to invent him." He really is one of the better sources of humor and entertainment in high sec. |

Samahiel Sotken
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
146
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Posted - 2014.02.20 21:17:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:i was there for the war of the mate
the bonds of mateship are not easily broken
As a veteran of the war of mate who was based out of Josameto with MINILUV, I want to confirm that this mate speaks the truth, mate. |

Samahiel Sotken
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
147
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Posted - 2014.02.21 01:02:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:Hey beefolk, an update on the opening post: Quote:let's see the same thing from GSF perspective ( details on my blog)! Goonswarm was attacked in 130 wars since Jan 1, 2013. Goons and allies lost 423.4B in these wars. RvB joined to 13 wars, and in these wars GSF and allies lost 264.4B. So 62% of the war losses happened while under protection of RvB. Granted, it's not 100%. Bad, bad pets! We lost just shy of 2.5 trillion isk in one battle and called it a win. We're supposed to notice a daily average loss that's three orders of magnitude smaller and quake in our space boots? You, son, would need a ladder and a pair of binoculars to even look up and see the level we're playing at. |

Samahiel Sotken
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
150
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Posted - 2014.02.21 14:47:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:Louis Robichaud wrote: RvB is working with the goons *for POCOs only*. That is it. I agree with you that this limited cooperation may "look a bit odd" to some.
Oh, and Burn Jita. That's even Mangala admitted. I'm afraid you didn't get the latest damage control memo. Please check alliance MOTD more often. The current official story is "RvB worked with Goons for POCOs and burn Jita for fun". By the way, this covers 2/3 of the highsec war activity of Goons and 2/3 of the non-consensual war activity of RvB too. That 1/3 when Goons fought alone totally proves that RvB isn't cooperating. Khanh'rhh wrote: Herein lies the problem you face in EvE, Gevlon. On a very basic level, you can't even see the difference between the actions of an NPC and a person.
The difference exists if the person has a choice. I mean if RvB directors would be able to make decisions, I could try to influence it. However the decision making of RvB leadership is identical to the belt rat: 1: object sighted 2: compare object with the list of hostiles provided by the programmer (Dev for belt rat, Goons for RvB) 3: if comparison is positive, attack, if not, ignore There is absolutely nothing I (or anyone) can do to change the decisions of RvB or the belt rat. They were made long before I started playing EVE. Trying to engage diplomacy with either one would only provide a hilarious chatlog. The only rational response is destroying it.
Wow, your lack of imagination and basic understanding of human behaviour is staggering. I'd heard you were a king among autistic pubbies before, but I never imagined anyone capable of uttering such un-self-concious bollocks.
The simple truth of the matter is that trying to engage in diplomacy would only provide a hilarious chatlog in your case. For any person of ability, who approached the matter in a mature and respectful manner, it could very well prove profitable.
Stop being such a shitler and trying to divine human behaviour via graphs and marginal return calculations. You might actually have more fun and end up a useful contributor to the vast human tapestry that is eve.
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Samahiel Sotken
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
151
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Posted - 2014.02.21 15:01:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:Xaerael Endiel wrote: Congratulations on your 3000th like (it was me)
Don't forget to click on the paplink!
I know, right? How dare we appreciate good posting or find a way to fairly reward participation in service to the common good! Next thing you know we might actually start having fun, and we all know that emotions are inefficient. Beep boop. |

Samahiel Sotken
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
151
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Posted - 2014.02.21 15:07:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:mynnna wrote:Historically if we want someone to not interfere with burn jita we throw fifty goons in battlecruisers at them if not simply blap them with our ganking ships, since it's always lone idiots rather than any organized response. Really?
Hey can I link stuff without an awareness of context? Yes WE Can! |

Samahiel Sotken
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
151
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Posted - 2014.02.21 15:42:00 -
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Hendrick Tallardar wrote:The amount of stupid in the OP hurts in so many different ways. Please, just stop writing for all eternity. Better keep a low profile Hendrick. Goblin may decide that PL are goon pets, and then he'll come after you with the only weapon even WAFFLES can not counter. Bad forum posting. |

Samahiel Sotken
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
151
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Posted - 2014.02.21 15:45:00 -
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Dramaticus wrote:Samahiel Sotken wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote:mynnna wrote:Historically if we want someone to not interfere with burn jita we throw fifty goons in battlecruisers at them if not simply blap them with our ganking ships, since it's always lone idiots rather than any organized response. Really? Hey can I link stuff without an awareness of context? Yes WE Can! Bonus points if someone finds out they are both autistic and epileptic thanks to your informative post. I like to think I provide a valuable service. One day Gevlon will surely thank me, once the doctors have found the proper dosage of meds for whatever it is he has. |

Samahiel Sotken
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
151
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Posted - 2014.02.21 15:58:00 -
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Hendrick Tallardar wrote:Samahiel Sotken wrote:Hendrick Tallardar wrote:The amount of stupid in the OP hurts in so many different ways. Please, just stop writing for all eternity. Better keep a low profile Hendrick. Goblin may decide that PL are goon pets, and then he'll come after you with the only weapon even WAFFLES can not counter. Bad forum posting. Oh, you think the bad posting meme is your ally, but you merely adopted it. I was born in it, molded by it. I didnGÇÖt see a good post until 2014.
My heart bleeds for you, wandering through the forums, a husk shell shocked and inured to it's trauma. But, maybe it makes you the poster EVE-O needs, if Goblin is the poster EVE-O deserves. |

Samahiel Sotken
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
151
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Posted - 2014.02.21 17:24:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote: Christ man, why haven't you slinked off in shame yet? Is this not embarassment enough? How many billions do you need to throw in the bin before you will finally realise you should have backed out in week one, when you realised you would need to actually fight for them?
In January Goons and pets lost 135B to Lemmings and Marmites. I'm embarrassed.
CFC and pets losses by alliance for 2/14:
GSF - 574.00b CO2 - 225.36b RZR - 105.95b FA - 178.31b EXE - 36.87b PBLRD - 180.90b FCON - 169.57b GENTS - 86.55b LAWN - 46.03b SMA - 76.01b TNT - 57.42b RVB-R - 98.27b RVB-B - 73.77b TOTAL - 1,909.01b
Goblin's Folly - 135b or 7.1%
Funnily enough I would wager if you look at any month previous to Goblin's Folly, I bet the loss numbers would be the same. The same number of idiots would be killed by concord, or on the Jita/Amarr undock even without Goblin throwing money at it. But, cling tightly to your sunk cost fallacy there, kiddo. |
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Samahiel Sotken
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
151
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Posted - 2014.02.21 17:43:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:samahiel wrote: CFC and pets losses by alliance for 2/14: * * Goblin's Folly - 135b or 7.1%
So one man enabling 7.1% damage of a 40000 men coalition is failure.
The hilarious part is that you're not enabling anything. There was is no net change in damages. I can throw money at the sky all day and claim that it caused the rain, but it doesn't make it true. |

Samahiel Sotken
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
151
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Posted - 2014.02.21 17:51:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote:Quote:So one man enabling 7.1% damage of a 40000 men coalition is failure You're not enabling it (since they were doing this before you even had 10mil ISK to your name) you've just decided to pick up the bill for it. It's roughly akin to someone donating money to a restuarant, then telling all their friends they're a great chef. One does not equal another. In fact, you have explicitly stated that you would at no point actually help run or organise anything, which is tantamount to openly admitting you lack the ability to be the enabler. I know you really, really hope that people will believe that you are causing the losses, but you aren't, and no one does. I don't even think you do, either. You're just so locked into this now you can't back down, even if you have to look ever more ridiculous with each claim. It's actually beautiful, when you think of it. We know you can't back out. You know you can't/won't back out. So, by hardly lifting a finger, we've gotten ourselves into a position where you're just throwing all your money away for literally no reason. Our win condition is you keep throwing your money away and blog about it, fyi. (Oh and keep all our POCOs, but then that's a self evident truth anyway).
Hey, Khanh'rhh. I'm going to send you 10m to support your posting habit, but I get to take credit for all your snappy one liners. Deal?
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Samahiel Sotken
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
151
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Posted - 2014.02.21 18:01:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote:Samahiel Sotken wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:Quote:So one man enabling 7.1% damage of a 40000 men coalition is failure You're not enabling it (since they were doing this before you even had 10mil ISK to your name) you've just decided to pick up the bill for it. It's roughly akin to someone donating money to a restuarant, then telling all their friends they're a great chef. One does not equal another. In fact, you have explicitly stated that you would at no point actually help run or organise anything, which is tantamount to openly admitting you lack the ability to be the enabler. I know you really, really hope that people will believe that you are causing the losses, but you aren't, and no one does. I don't even think you do, either. You're just so locked into this now you can't back down, even if you have to look ever more ridiculous with each claim. It's actually beautiful, when you think of it. We know you can't back out. You know you can't/won't back out. So, by hardly lifting a finger, we've gotten ourselves into a position where you're just throwing all your money away for literally no reason. Our win condition is you keep throwing your money away and blog about it, fyi. (Oh and keep all our POCOs, but then that's a self evident truth anyway). Hey, Khanh'rhh. I'm going to send you 10m to support your posting habit, but I get to take credit for all your snappy one liners. Deal? Will I get to see excel graphs of my posting before and after? This is important.
Of course, I am MINILUV's premier graphic artists.
edit: that poster was referencing a one month period as well. It's instructive to realize that Goblin's Folly can manage 8.7% of what MINILUV can. |

Samahiel Sotken
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
151
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Posted - 2014.02.21 18:12:00 -
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Samahiel Sotken wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote: Christ man, why haven't you slinked off in shame yet? Is this not embarassment enough? How many billions do you need to throw in the bin before you will finally realise you should have backed out in week one, when you realised you would need to actually fight for them?
In January Goons and pets lost 135B to Lemmings and Marmites. I'm embarrassed. CFC and pets losses by alliance for 2/14: GSF - 574.00b CO2 - 225.36b RZR - 105.95b FA - 178.31b EXE - 36.87b PBLRD - 180.90b FCON - 169.57b GENTS - 86.55b LAWN - 46.03b SMA - 76.01b TNT - 57.42b RVB-R - 98.27b RVB-B - 73.77b TOTAL - 1,909.01bGoblin's Folly - 135b or 7.1% Funnily enough I would wager if you look at any month previous to Goblin's Folly, I bet the loss numbers would be the same. The same number of idiots would be killed by concord, or on the Jita/Amarr undock even without Goblin throwing money at it. But, cling tightly to your sunk cost fallacy there, kiddo.
I forgot PL were our pets. -10.0 - 98.38b N0MAD - 51.24b B0T - 269.02b TOTAL - 2327.65
Which brings Goblin's Folly down to 5.8%
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Samahiel Sotken
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
151
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Posted - 2014.02.21 18:18:00 -
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Uba Stij wrote:Pete Butcher wrote: Can you image the amount of hilarious sperging you will have to write when you ultimately fail this?
Having seen the type of people that are in Gevlons Sponsored Pet Alliance, I can. They genuinely think they're winning. It's great, I want to see them cry more than Gevlon already cries about Goons when it fails. Pete Butcher wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote: In January Goons and pets lost 135B to Lemmings and Marmites. I'm embarrassed.
In January, Lemmings took 0 POCOs. You should be embarrassed. But...but....they took out some destroyers of the CFC! They're winning! Also in terms of "doing damage" Gevlon and his little band of idiots are really bad. They're at an 82% efficiency when a corp half the size of his alliance has 92% Darwins Lemminigs - https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99004027/SniggWaffe - https://zkillboard.com/corporation/116777001/If I were looking for a group that "does more damage" to Goons, it's pretty easy to see that SniggWaffe is the choice to make. Make the right choice, and become a Waffle today. Unless you enjoy autistic blogging by a guy who can't comprehend the concept of "fun", then yeah go with Marmite Pets Anonymous. I support this product and/or service. |

Samahiel Sotken
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
151
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Posted - 2014.02.21 18:30:00 -
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Wait, Gevlon's autism support group has 366 members? Jesus, they're like five times the size of MINILUV, and we still do ten times the damage.
This is an important point Goblin forgets. On paper we have tens of thousands of pilots, but only about 70 of them care about Highsec. So he might think he's leading the 300 against Xerxes horde, but he's really getting beat down by a few dozen guys on vacation from the real wars. |

Samahiel Sotken
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
151
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Posted - 2014.02.21 18:38:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote: Right. So you couldn't care less about POCOs, but your problem with RvB is that they are stopping you from taking our POCOs, which you have claimed many, many times, actually is your goal.
It also doesn't matter. The damage you're doing is a rounding error.
I don't care about owning POCOs. I care about GSF not owning POCOs. Again you aren't coordinating with other GSF posters. They just said 7.1%. You're behind with the math. it's 5.8% of damage done. It's a much smaller percentage of isk lost/spent/invested. So, in the context of our expenditures and income is a rounding error. |

Samahiel Sotken
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
151
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Posted - 2014.02.21 19:22:00 -
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Hendrick Tallardar wrote: SniggWaffe, a corp with 200 fewer pilots, can deal over twice as many kills at minimum (February saw our return to lowsec after the south east finished up) than Gevlon's attempt at an alliance to deal damage to Goons. Waffles also finance themselves individually and don't have an ISK reserve that is close to what Gevlon claims to be.
Basically a training corp for a "Goon pet" in Pandemic Legion can do more than Gevlon's entire alliance with Marmite Collective doing all the heavy work. It's quite sad really, and these numbers are hard to lie about.
Very convincing!
Next time we get too big for our britches, and need to be taken down a peg, I know who I'll be calling.
Edit: Interesting note, since PL are our pets and included in Goblin's damaged dealt number. We actually manage to do more damage to ourselves than we take from highsec, regardless of whether Goblin throws money into that pit or not. |

Samahiel Sotken
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
152
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Posted - 2014.02.21 19:37:00 -
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Hendrick Tallardar wrote: That or just take on the nomadic lifestyle Waffles enjoy today. Shed the tedium of Nullsec.
Also see what SniggWaffe's numbers do to the overall figures you accounted for. I mean, we are pets of a pet after all.
I did include Waffles as an alliance in the second set of numbers that downgraded goblin's folly to 5.8% of damage done.
Also, everyone knows that once goonswarm is free of the burden of Sov Null we will return to the ancestral Holy Land of Syndicate and aid our Groon Brothers in scourging it of the unpure pubbie masses. Did you know that Poitot is the only named system in Syndicate?
edit: for reference here are the numbers.
CFC and pets losses by alliance for 2/14:
GSF - 574.00b CO2 - 225.36b RZR - 105.95b FA - 178.31b EXE - 36.87b PBLRD - 180.90b FCON - 169.57b GENTS - 86.55b LAWN - 46.03b SMA - 76.01b TNT - 57.42b RVB-R - 98.27b RVB-B - 73.77b -10.0 - 98.38b N0MAD - 51.24b B0T - 269.02b TOTAL - 2327.65
Goblin's Folly - 135b or 5.8% |

Samahiel Sotken
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
152
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Posted - 2014.02.21 19:44:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:Louis Robichaud wrote: RvBee is a responsible poco owing group that offers reasonable tax rates. If you are going to blow them up without replacing them, you are doing a huge disservice to high sec PI industrialists.
Did you just pull a "why are you shooting at us, we mine the minerals for your ships"?
I believe he called you a terrorist. Why do you hate FREEDOM?
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:I'm too clueless to know who is crying to who, but I approve of this player generated content. Look at all the pilots getting to shoot all the things and for *reasons*!
This is the best response. Hurrah Explosions! |
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Samahiel Sotken
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
152
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Posted - 2014.02.21 19:52:00 -
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Hendrick Tallardar wrote:Samahiel Sotken wrote:Did you know that Poitot is the only named system in Syndicate?
No I did not know that. Is there anything else I should know about Poitot?
Well, I hear that Evoke, who live in syndicate since we took their space, are *****.
For all your other Poitot related questions, you may want to visit it's website! http://poitot.com/ |

Samahiel Sotken
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
153
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Posted - 2014.02.21 21:38:00 -
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Desivo Delta Visseroff wrote:Twenty Five Percent wrote:Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:I'm too clueless to know who is crying to who The expression on Gevlon Goblins avatars face sums this up nicely Such sperg  Much hate  More war  But confusion 
Where are our FWEDDIT allies to do one of their droll doge memes about this. OH! I forgot to add FWEDDIT to the list.
CFC and pets losses by alliance for 2/14:
GSF - 574.00b CO2 - 225.36b RZR - 105.95b FA - 178.31b EXE - 36.87b PBLRD - 180.90b FCON - 169.57b GENTS - 86.55b LAWN - 46.03b SMA - 76.01b TNT - 57.42b RVB-R - 98.27b RVB-B - 73.77b -10.0 - 98.38b N0MAD - 51.24b B0T - 269.02b J4LP - 38.33b TOTAL - 2365.98
Goblin's Folly - 135b or 5.7% |

Samahiel Sotken
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
155
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Posted - 2014.02.22 03:32:00 -
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Istyn wrote:Oblivion King wrote:
Paying for kills means he had nothing to do with them or funding the war? ah I see, also where does he claim kills in that post?
a mercenary a ganker and you're being smug,really now Istyn..
What?
I believe what you are experiencing here is summed up nicely in the old adage, "Lay down with dogsgoblins, and you wake up with fleasautists."
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Samahiel Sotken
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
155
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Posted - 2014.02.22 03:34:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote:Whoop Me again. I have recently learned, that if you want to make a point, that you need a graph. It's not enough for me to just say "But we saved every POCO you are the worst at doing your job", I need to show it in pictures. Hence I made a pie chart of Jan/Feb 2014 charting our POCO save OPs. http://i.imgur.com/D7Szn3F.png
Since we're getting graphical, I would like to represent the affect Mynnna's posts have on Goblin's arguments. |

Samahiel Sotken
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
155
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Posted - 2014.02.22 04:05:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:Istyn wrote: Please don't try to claim some sort of credit/thump your chest over kills you had nothing to do with.
Let's open the Marmite war history page and look up Northern Associates, which is another renter alliance like PBLRD. There was a war with them between 2013/09/27 and 2014/02/04 Then there is an ongoing war from 2014/02/13. What is between them? A week when you couldn't shoot Northern Associates in highsec. Now let's check PBLRD and you see an ongoing, uninterrupted war since I started my Merc contract with Marmite 6 weeks ago. If these JFs were in Northern Associates, you'd have 1/6 chance to just watch them float away. Considering the value of the kills, the probability increase of them and the war costs, I know there is exactly one Goon in this thread who understands why am I happy. On a different note: did you people notice that in the thread "RvB is a Goon scam" 90% of the posts are coming from Goons (and a certain Spacemonkey). This isn't the best way to eliminate the suspicion.
Translation: "Yout DON'T talk back to -A- Gevlon, pet!"
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Samahiel Sotken
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
155
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Posted - 2014.02.22 04:16:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote: Let's open the Marmite war history page and look up Northern Associates, which is another renter alliance like PBLRD. There was a war with them between 2013/09/27 and 2014/02/04 Then there is an ongoing war from 2014/02/13. What is between them? A week when you couldn't shoot Northern Associates in highsec.
Let's drill down into this.
Northern Associates Losses By Month: 08-13 285.54b 09-13 329.03b 10-13 258.61b 11-13 268.84b 12-13 203.70b 01-14 236.31b 02-14 232.09b
According to this, their two highest months of losses happened BEFORE the initial war dec. And while the month of February appears lower than average, it's only three quarters over. If you extrapolate from the current trend it should end somewhere around 309.45b in damages. Which would make it, despite the loss of a weeks worth of war decs, the second most costly month in the period, second only to the month preceding the war dec.
The statistics are clear. If you want your corps loss rates to decrease, have goblin pay someone to attack you.
edit: source https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99000163/history/ |

Samahiel Sotken
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
160
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Posted - 2014.02.22 16:14:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Tarojan, I just wanted to expand on this. You can indeed join GSF without being in Goonwaffe, and that's where their noobie program operates. But as well as that, you too can meet the Goonwaffe requirement by becoming a member of the SA forums, so their entry requirement isn't impossible to meet. Now if you don't want to become a member of the SA forums, it's unlikely you'd enjoy being in Goonwaffe anyway. It would be like joining a fishing club if you hate fishing.
I can't speak for any of our various allies, but Goonwaffe is a corporation for Something Awful members who happen to play eve. Something Awful is not a forum for eve players who happen to be in Goonwaffe. Just like Starfleet Dental is the group for Something Awful members who happen to hate themselves enough to play Star Trek Online. If EVE were to shut the servers down tomorrow, we'd all still be playing together as goons, just somewhere else.
That being said we have myriad other corporations and alliances within our august coalition who I'm sure would be happy to find a place for you. Convo me in game and I'll see about hooking you up.
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